Homemade glass slide...anybody ever make one?

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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 22, 2009 06:01:53 Seventh String moderator	Tags : None Tommie posted a vid with Sonny Landreth playing with a slide that looked homemade to me. Jen and I attend the local shows of Michael Gulezian whenever he is in town and he uses a homemade slide. My question is what bottle necks are being used for the slides? Everytime we empty a bottle of wine or new beer I am sticking my finger in trying to find a good fit. Michael Gulezian's suggests finding a larger neck and then glueing a piece of material of the correct thickness to fit your finger. His had a narrow piece of canvas on one side which he placed against the inside (palm side) of his finger. Well haven't had any luck finding a neck big enough for my finger(s) let alone bigger so I can adapt it. I have tried the slides at the stores but they seem too thin for my taste. Looking for something with some thickness to it. So does anybody know of or remember what types of bottle necks were used for making your own slide? signed Finger stuck in bottle neck in Mn "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis Last Edited By: Fingerpicker August 22, 2009 06:52:25. Edited 1 time.
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Concert Posts: 1644 August 22, 2009 06:09:08 BGMF Owner & Founder "Fame is but a fruit tree" Nick Drake	My oh my could I have fun with this one. But it is August and I am trying to work hard and not make fun of my friends. The world is not a black and white place...It's green and blue B.G.M.F.
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 22, 2009 06:52:13 Seventh String moderator	omegaman41658 wrote: My oh my could I have fun with this one. But it is August and I am trying to work hard and not make fun of my friends. Just pretend it's September then. <grin> It's almost to the point now where a trip to the hootch store will find me just looking at the bottle necks. The guy who started taping our sheetrock yesterday told me about a somewhat local store that has over a thousand different beers and all I could think of was perhaps there is one in there that might work. "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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000 Posts: 502 August 22, 2009 07:11:12	Hrmmmmm.... I can just see the ER personnel asking FP over and over exactly what he was trying to do as they try to extract his wedged finger from a beer bottle neck. They will probably take his blood alcohol level while they are at it. "Ish schupposed to be a schlide. For playin'. Dun yoush underschand? A schlide!" Hugs, Ratkity
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 22, 2009 07:39:37 Seventh String moderator	Ratkity wrote: I can just see the ER personnel asking FP over and over exactly what he was trying to do as they try to extract his wedged finger from a beer bottle neck. I know, it's crazy. The things we will do for that which we are passionate. "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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Tele	Better than that FP.............	#5	[url]	[-]
0M Posts: 771 August 22, 2009 07:42:45 Ask BGMF moderator	I have very large hands. There used to be be so many more containers made out of glass. Trying to find one to fit can be a challenge. I would look at knick knack resale stores, rather than trying to use beer, or wine bottle necks. You can sometimes find them at garage sales too. Glass spice bottles, used to have much thicker walls. Old pill bottles are a good find too. They used to re-use the bottles, so they are pretty thick. I have even found smaller round salt and pepper containers that will work. You can cut off the threaded portion, or just leave them intact. I remember someone had a big bottle of Cutty too. Wonder how big and thick that glass is? Who was that now?................... When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything you gave me."
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 22, 2009 07:55:35 Seventh String moderator	Tele wrote: I remember someone had a big bottle of Cutty too. Wonder how big and thick that glass is? Who was that now?................... I could fit my big toe in that neck and have room to spare. Great, now I'll be wandering around antique stores putting my fingers in and out of bottles. That won't get any looks. <grin> "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2054 August 22, 2009 09:55:56 Northwest Lounge moderator	Fingerpicker wrote: My question is what bottle necks are being used for the slides? Looking for something with some thickness to it. So does anybody know of or remember what types of bottle necks were used for making your own slide? signed Finger stuck in bottle neck in Mn 'Mateús Rosé bottles were used often in the old days. They worked well becasue they had more lead content in them. Mike Dowling, if by some chance you don't know his slide work you need to check him out, made one and it is very thick green glass and has more lead in it. Getting a new Mateus Rose bottle is not the same as the lead content is less. Now where to get a good slide. The best slide I know of come from England and are made by Diamond Slide and the owner is a great person to work with. I have email him back and forth a few times. When I was at the International Guitar Seminar Mike Dowling was there and now Diamond Slide is making a signature model slide for Mike. Diamond Slides has a number of different models and from all the folks I have heard nothing but great stories and sounds from the folks that have them. I played one once and thought it was a great slide. You can also get a nice sounding slide out of bone and or ceramic. I have a Mud Slide that I really like and a brass slide that I really like that is concaved and quite heavy. The thick size seems to make a better sound to my ear but that is truely a personal issue. Mud Slides are ceramic and come in a couple of colors and lengths. I have both blue and black. The same length slide in each color will give a bit of a difference in tone. One sounds a little more like bone. Roy BookBinder uses a bone slide which is quite thick. He got it while he was playing in England and one of the other perfomers and he were having breakfast together and the other fellow put it on the table. The other fellow noticed Roy continuing to look at it. Roy told him he really liked the sound of the thing from the concert the night before. Before they parted after breakfast the man gave the slide to the Roy. Rory Block uses a Craftman deepwell socket and gets a great slide sound out of it. I think the first one she got someone modified it for her by taking off some of the heavy end and rounding it a bit but I know she uses the deepwell socket as I have heard her talk about it and seen her play with it. Bob Brosman made his back in the 60s or 70s when he was quite a bit younger but he has kept it for all these years. It has a few chips in it now but when he puts it to work it is like magic. If I remember his is green in color but I haven't seen or talked to him in about 5 years. Steve James gets slide from a fellow in Tuson Arizona by the name of Jerry Glombecki. I am not really sure of the correct spelling on this one but I bought a couple of slides from Steve when I have taken classes from him. Most of those slides are either brown glass or blue glass. Differences in weight, lead content, materal, and thinkness make a difference in the sound. I find I like one more on a particular guitar and then another one on a different guitar. I also find that the piece I am playing I sometimes will like the sound of one more than another with the same guitar. Well that is enough about slides for now. Fingerpicker if you got more questions about slides just send me a message or ask here. I don't see myself as an expert on slides but I do have quite a few and have played around with the different tones I can get. I would like a couple of custom made slides but have not had any made specifically for me yet. ragtime man
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2054 August 22, 2009 10:01:50 Northwest Lounge moderator	Regarding making slides the trick is getting a good cut on the bottle. From what I am told there are different ways to do it from taking a glass cutter and scoring the bottle,using a tile saw/ glass cutting saw, filling a bottle mostly full of water and rapping a string around the neck of a bottle with the string having been put in something that is flammable and once the string is lit to hitting the neck on its side. There was some years ago a glass bottle cutter that was being sold on TV which would score a bottle and then you could break it off and make a vase out of the bottle. I have heard of folks finding these and making slides also. ragtime man
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 22, 2009 10:07:51 Seventh String moderator	Wow ragtime that is a wealth of information and gives me many places to start my quest. Exactly what I was looking for. Once again you amaze me. "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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Concert Posts: 1850 August 22, 2009 11:22:49 Mandolin moderator	Duane Allman made Coricidin famous by using the bottles for slide. I've read interviews where Ry Cooder told of the specific bottle(wine, I think) that he used necks from, but I don't remember what. Mandolins; Breedlove Cascade; Victoria, B&J New York ; Washburn 215 bowl back, cr.1906-07; Flatiron by Gibson pancake(in hospital for neck surgery). Guitar: Guild D-25NT.
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00 Posts: 184 August 22, 2009 15:43:43	old medicine bottles were used also, Rags, you have me interested in the mudslide, is that your favorite?
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2054 August 22, 2009 20:56:47 Northwest Lounge moderator	I would say I have two favorites. One is the mudslide and in my mudslide I like the sound of the black one better than the blue one. I have both the short and the long in both black and blue. I end up using using the short one in black the most as far as mudslides go. Keb Mo uses the Mudslide so you can listen to some of his smooth slide work and get an idea of what the Mudslide sounds like. Although, I can not guarentee that he only plays with a Mudslide. My other favorite is the thick brass one that I have and it is curved and wider on the tip of the finger end. I like that one on my National Resophonic Replicon and I tend to use it the most when I am playing more Delta slide stuff. I think the ceramic slide, Mudslide, has more of a bone tone to it. I would say it is just a bit more mellow than the thick brass slide that I have. My glass slides are brighter I think and again it seems to make a difference in the color of the glass. The sockets that I use have a bright sound and I can't really describe it. Sorry. I have a number of them and the ones I like the best I got from Steve James. Listen to Rory Block and you can hear her slide, socket, but she is not playing on a resonator. She plays on her signature Martin or one of her other Martins mainly. So I mainly go between the thick brass slide and the Mudslide in black. When I get the 46-47 Gibson out the strings are low to the frets so using a heavy brass slide is a bit tricky. I sometimes will go to the Mudslide or to a glass slide that as not as heavy and hard to control. Well that is about it I guess. ragtime man
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2054 August 22, 2009 20:58:58 Northwest Lounge moderator	MandoSquirrel wrote: Duane Allman made Coricidin famous by using the bottles for slide. I've read interviews where Ry Cooder told of the specific bottle(wine, I think) that he used necks from, but I don't remember what. I have used the Coricidin bottle also but for me it is to wide and I have to cramp my little finger to keep it on. Plus, for me, it doesn't give me the volume that I get from the thicker and heavier slides. Again, each to their own. ragtime man Last Edited By: ragtime man August 22, 2009 21:08:18. Edited 1 time.
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 23, 2009 07:11:30 Seventh String moderator	Once again ragtime man thanks for all this super info. Way more than I even hoped for. Tommie is pretty friggin good with a slide and you have piqued his interest too. Well done! "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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Tele	Dont know if this helps............	#15	[url]	[-]
0M Posts: 771 August 24, 2009 13:14:12 Ask BGMF moderator	but all the talk about slides (and picks in another thread) made me think of Brossard. They have some real bottleneck slides. Take a peek. http://www.brossardpicks.com/shop/products/-Classic-Bottleneck-%28%252d50%25-intro-price-was-%2411.95%29.html <edit> As Michael reminded me, mandolin picks too! When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, "I used everything you gave me." Last Edited By: Tele August 24, 2009 14:20:33. Edited 1 time.
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Concert Posts: 1091 August 24, 2009 13:28:27 Gallery & Boutique moderator	I don't know about slides, but that site is cool. I have been considering making my own picks from Cherry/Pear/Apple/Plum wood (all of which I have in my yard). Now that I see it can be done successfully I have several ideas going through my head. Thanks Tele!
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Slope Shoulder Posts: 2797 August 24, 2009 14:19:46 Seventh String moderator	Michael is correct. That site is cool and the prices are quite reasonable as well. Thanks Tele. "You can't get a cup of tea big enough or a book long enough to suit me." ~ C.S. Lewis
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Tommie		#18	[url]	[-]
00 Posts: 184 August 24, 2009 16:35:10	Thanks Rags, Thanks tele, great info....
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